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In praise of the humble DX
NoosaPete
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In praise of the humble DX
1 day ago

I read so often of all the downfalls of the Nikon Z, APC-S cameras that I feel that I should stand up for them. OK, so the native lens sellection is limited (but there are plenty of fx and third party options) and they don't have in body stabilization but most of the lenses do.

The thing is that I believe that the DX cameras are aimed at people like me - just your average non profesional enthusiast who enjoys taking photos. Very few people except me see the results and when my wife or friends see the odd shot they are usually complimentary. Isn't that all that matters? Of course, if you are a professional photographer that's a different matter.

I have a Z50 and a zfc with the two kit zooms, the 12-28mm and the 24mm prime. Really that covers all I need. Sure, if a new, higher spec Dx comes out I may be tempter (but that will just be GAS.!)

So thank you Nikon. I am enjoying your Z DX cameras.

Happy New Year and best wishes to you all.

rangel28
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
1 day ago

NoosaPete wrote:

I read so often of all the downfalls of the Nikon Z, APC-S cameras that I feel that I should stand up for them. OK, so the native lens sellection is limited (but there are plenty of fx and third party options) and they don't have in body stabilization but most of the lenses do.

The thing is that I believe that the DX cameras are aimed at people like me - just your average non profesional enthusiast who enjoys taking photos. Very few people except me see the results and when my wife or friends see the odd shot they are usually complimentary. Isn't that all that matters? Of course, if you are a professional photographer that's a different matter.

I have a Z50 and a zfc with the two kit zooms, the 12-28mm and the 24mm prime. Really that covers all I need. Sure, if a new, higher spec Dx comes out I may be tempter (but that will just be GAS.!)

So thank you Nikon. I am enjoying your Z DX cameras.

Happy New Year and best wishes to you all.

I agree that unfortunately the crop frame line does not get much respect. Nikon, like all companies, is looking to maximize revenue and more revenue can be made by selling full frame cameras and lenses.

I still use my Z50 (with the two kit lenses) and acquired a Z30 last year. I was pleasantly surprised by the capabilities of the Z30, and even more surprised that I am able to get consistently good results without a viewfinder. I have the Z 18mm-140mm practically glued on to that camera as it makes for a very small and capable combination when I don't want to carry more.

We might soon see a Z50 II, hopefully with an improved focusing system and IBIS. And many are waiting for the phantom Z500, which will be a popular camera for birders/wildlife photographers and others looking to take advantage of the crop sensor. I believe there is a market for DX cameras and lenses, as not everyone wants to or needs to spend thousands on full frame cameras and lenses.

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mma2
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
19 hours ago

I owned a Z50 with both kit lenses and loved it's small size and light weight.

What I would love to see in a future Nikon DX body is to continue the small size of the current Z DX bodies and simply add a second memory card slot.  This could be a micro-SD slot like in my new Zf.  This would result in a perfect overseas travel body for those of us that want a backup card and do not want to travel with other backup devices (keeping size and weight to a minimum for active travel).

I'd buy two!

Tim_Mc
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
19 hours ago

Add one more vote in agreement.  The 12-28 was a real surprise and now my favorite lens on the Z50. Almost as much a surprise, I grabbed the 24-200 VR from my Z7 and it is a perfect 2nd lens to the 12-28.

Quietly the Z50 has really benefited from Adobe's processing improvements in the last year.  At an A3 size print the results are nearly indistinguishable from my Z7.  For my use, a nearly perfect small package.

Ozzie SD
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
18 hours ago

NoosaPete wrote:

I read so often of all the downfalls of the Nikon Z, APC-S cameras that I feel that I should stand up for them. OK, so the native lens sellection is limited (but there are plenty of fx and third party options) and they don't have in body stabilization but most of the lenses do.

The thing is that I believe that the DX cameras are aimed at people like me - just your average non profesional enthusiast who enjoys taking photos. Very few people except me see the results and when my wife or friends see the odd shot they are usually complimentary. Isn't that all that matters? Of course, if you are a professional photographer that's a different matter.

I currently own a Sony HX99. It's a very small compact camera with a very large zoom range 24-720 mm. The only thing I dislike is the image quality. Although it definitely is not bad, it is not "wow" either. I am thinking about making photography a new hobby. Many years ago I shortly owned a Canon DSLR. It captured great images, but I sold it because lack of time. The thing I did not like about that camera is that it was quite heavy and I had to carry it in a backpack.

Currently I am looking for something new. I discussed my wishes in the "open talk" forum and serious options to consider were the Sony RX10 IV and the Sony RX100 VII. Both nice cameras. The first one is a 1" bridge camera with a 24-600 mm zoom range. However, the camera is (in my opinion) very large/bulky. The Sony RX100 VII is very compact, but the zoom range is more limited, 24-200 mm. It would have my preference over the RX10 IV though, because of its smaller size.

I went comparing more models and then I found the Z50 which is relatively "small". So far, the pictures I found taken with this camera are very pleasing and I think the image quality is even better than the RX100 VII. With the 18-140 mm zoom lens it can cover approximately the same focal range as the RX100 VII. It will be heavier though, but I think the images will have better IQ.

I have a Z50 and a zfc with the two kit zooms, the 12-28mm and the 24mm prime. Really that covers all I need. Sure, if a new, higher spec Dx comes out I may be tempter (but that will just be GAS.!)

So thank you Nikon. I am enjoying your Z DX cameras.

I think the great thing about the Z DX cameras is that they are small but still have an APS-C sensor, and due to the crop factor you can get a nice zoom range in a relatively small and affordable package. So, yes I think it could be a camera for me to enjoy. Hearing also rumors that a Nikon Z50 II is on its way. If that is the case, chances are that will become my new camera.

Happy New Year and best wishes to you all.

Best wishes to you as well!

Dennis
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
17 hours ago

NoosaPete wrote:

The thing is that I believe that the DX cameras are aimed at people like me - just your average non profesional enthusiast who enjoys taking photos.

The DX products themselves are good. The system doesn't offer what a lot of people (myself included) want, so it's not an option, but if it offers what you want, then it's hard to beat.

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Ingenious44
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
14 hours ago

Ozzie SD wrote:

I currently own a Sony HX99. It's a very small compact camera with a very large zoom range 24-720 mm.

If it's any help, I have the Panasonic version of this camera (I did have the same Sony as you but dropped and broke it, the Panasonic was cheaper and I fancied a change). When I bought the 50-250mm for my Z50 I was surprised to find the Z50 resolved more detail than the 720mm on the compact camera, despite having to crop in to the image a lot. That said, these little compacts are the ultimate pocket camera in many ways, despite poor low light performance. The Z50 does wipe the floor with it though for image quality.

Bob A L
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
12 hours ago

Strong full fledged DX fan club member here. I have no use for FF monstrosities. My personal choice is the Zfc, and I have no need for anything more upscale.  I also use DX dslr's interchangeably with no concerns about image quality at all.

Ozzie SD
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Re: In praise of the humble DX
11 hours ago

Ingenious44 wrote:

Ozzie SD wrote:

I currently own a Sony HX99. It's a very small compact camera with a very large zoom range 24-720 mm.

If it's any help, I have the Panasonic version of this camera (I did have the same Sony as you but dropped and broke it, the Panasonic was cheaper and I fancied a change).

Many thanks for replying! Is it the Panasonic TZ90 or TZ95 perhaps?

When I bought the 50-250mm for my Z50 I was surprised to find the Z50 resolved more detail than the 720mm on the compact camera, despite having to crop in to the image a lot.

Do you only have 1 lens, the 50-250 mm? Or do you have other lenses as well?

That said, these little compacts are the ultimate pocket camera in many ways, despite poor low light performance.

Yes, they are nice. But which one do you prefer if you want good image quality?

The Z50 does wipe the floor with it though for image quality.

If you have an example of a picture of the Panasonic versus the Nikon which shows the difference in image quality, feel free to post!

Ellis Vener
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The four advantages of using the DX format option on an FX camera
10 hours ago

Advsantasges of the DX format 
- For the same angle of view as a longer focal length lens with the FX format, greater depth of field for the same f-stop.

- Narrower angle of view. This is especially useful when you know you want a narrower angle of view than your longest lens.

- Smaller file size. But that is only useful when you have a limited amount of camera media with you or a limited amount of storage at home or in your studio. 
- Smaller files require less processing power and can be delivered faster.

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